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AkJon Ferguson
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Posted - 2011.03.14 06:01:00 -
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 Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Heh 4 major games sites reporting on RMT, Botting and EvE.
Can't be good for CCP's reputation.
It gives them a bad reputation compared to what games?, most/all of the major mmo's have bot/RMT problems. Blizzzard spend most of the last expansion trying to fight hackers stealing gold from players and guilds, i've not played aion online but from what i've heard they also have huge problems with bots.
It gives them a bad reputation because the other companies you cited are actively fighting against that behavior instead of condoning it (if not enabling it) like CCP does.
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AkJon Ferguson
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Posted - 2011.07.19 20:26:00 -
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Over on failheap a potty-mouthed fanboi is claiming that with respect to bots, CCP have "picked up the ball here and run with it. The problem isn't completely solved and it never can be but they are doing something about it."
Is there any truth to this or is it still just like 1 guy at CCP giving multiple chances to botters enforcing a policy with multiple loopholes, allowing botting to continue more or less as before?
I'd think that if CCP were really doing something significant, they'd be crowing about it.
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Posted - 2011.07.19 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Athena
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Over on failheap a potty-mouthed fanboi is claiming that with respect to bots, CCP have "picked up the ball here and run with it. The problem isn't completely solved and it never can be but they are doing something about it."
Is there any truth to this or is it still just like 1 guy at CCP giving multiple chances to botters enforcing a policy with multiple loopholes, allowing botting to continue more or less as before?
I'd think that if CCP were really doing something significant, they'd be crowing about it.
CCP has told the CSM this (from the May meeting minutes with the Eve Secutity Task Force):
"CSM was shown a graph of the number of characters actively performing a ôcertain actionö more than 20 hours a day. There were huge chasms in the graph around Chinese New Year, Hulkageddon, and a final cliff like drop after the first ESTF bannings."
"Only 8% of players who receive their first strike go on to get a second strike. CSM noted that this compares to a 1-year recidivism rate in the US of 16%, which indicates that EVE players are distressingly law-abiding.
As of the week before the summit, nearly 100 players had received a third-strike, but an additional number of players who had been caught botting were separately banned for RMT.
CSM raised the concern that the numbers being shown were being affected by character laundering (selling of characters that have received strikes and replacing them with clean characters). However, CCP tracks this activity and the numbers are not significant."
For that last: The strikes are against the PLAYER, not the account or character. There are reports in the other bot thread of botters with 5 accounts, 4 of which bot, getting all 5 banned.
So CCP is doing something. But is it enough?
That actually sounds promising. Thanks for the info. (Not sure how wise it is to tell the botters that the cut-off is 20 hours per day, but that might be (justifiable for a change) deliberate misinformation.
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Posted - 2011.07.19 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 19/07/2011 21:46:11
On this issue (whether or not CCP's actions are having any significant effect at reducing/deterring botting,) it sounds like you were right and I was wrong. (and I'd rather be wrong than right here, tbh.)
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Posted - 2011.07.20 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Athena
So CCP is doing something. But is it enough?
Not if it means that all a botter has to do is bot 18 hours a day on 4 PLEXed accounts instead of 23.5 hours a day on 3 PLEXed accounts.
'Recidivism rates' are meaningless if 'law enforcement' is incompetent or if the criminals have learned how to avoid detection.
Fewer than 100 players banned for botting. It sounds like CCP has made a 'promising' start, by targeting the most flagrant abusers. CCP is very good at promising. Delivering, not so much.
What ever became of that list of RMTers on EVENews24? Were they all banned? Were they at least all investigated?
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